萧凡:臣以为,宜兴辟雍,设庠序,陈礼乐,隆雅、颂之声,盛揖让之容,以风化天下,如此不治者,未之有也。
陈牧:先生之言是也,寡人受教矣。
chenmu:iwanttoeducatetheworld,sir,isthereanythingtoteachme?
xiaofan:ithinkschoolsshouldbesetuptoteachpeopleetiquetteandmusic,thecustomofadvocatinghumilitymakessocietyharmonious,onlyinthiswaycanthecountrybebettergoverned。
chenmu:sirisright,iacceptyourteachings。
陈牧:教化同刑法,孰为重孰为轻?先生教我。
萧凡:臣以为,教化之于刑法,刑法轻而教化重,舍所重而急所轻,岂不谬哉,且教化所恃以为治,刑法所以助治也,今废所恃而独立其所助,非所以致太平也。
陈牧:先生之言是也,寡人谨受教。
chenmu:indoctrinationandcriminallawwhichisimportant,sirtaughtme。
xiaofan:ithinkindoctrinationismoreimportantthancriminallaw,isn‘titabsurdtonowattachimportancetocriminallawandignoreindoctrination,indoctrinationistheessenceofgovernmentandcriminallawisameansofassistinggovernment,nowadays,thereisadeviationfromthegovernment,thisisnotthewaytobringharmonyandstabilitytothecountry。
chenmu:sirisright,irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。
陈牧:人有郁疾,国有乎?先生教我。
萧凡:臣以为有之,人之五脏六腑,血脉欲其通也,若此则病无所生,国亦有郁,主德不通,民欲不达,此国之郁也,国郁处久,则百恶并起,而万灾丛至矣,故圣王之贵豪士与忠臣也,为其敢直言,而决郁塞也。
陈牧:先生之言是也,寡人谨受教。
chenmu:peoplewillbedepressedthenwillthecountrybedepressed?sirtaughtme。
xiaofan:ithinkthereissuchasituation,ifthebloodintheinternalorgansisunobstructed,thenyouwillnotgetsick,thesameistrueofcountries,thefavorofthekingisnotfulfilled,andtheopinionsofthepeoplecannotbeadopted,thenthecountrywillgetsick,allkindsofbadthingsanddisasterswillhappen,sowisekingsreusevirtuousandloyalmen,becausetheytellthetruthandsolvenationalproblems。
chenmu:sirisright,irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。
陈牧:今寡人问鼎中夏,不可谓无功也,先生以为然否?
萧凡:臣以为,亡国之主,必自骄,必轻物,自骄则简士,自智则专独,轻物则无备,无备召祸,专独位危,简士壅塞,欲无壅塞必礼士,欲位无危必得众,欲无召祸必完备,三者人君之大经也,昔者楚庄王谋事而当,有大功,退朝而有忧色,今大王之势不及楚王,而有骄矜之色,非社稷之福也。
陈牧:非先生之言,寡人几不悟也,寡人知过矣。
chenmu:today,idominatetheworldanddoagreatjob,sirthoughtso?
xiaofan:ithinkthekingofthefallenkingdommustbeconceitedandarrogant,conceitwilllookdownonthemeritocracyandthusdictatorship,arroganceleadstocarelessnessanddisaster,inthepast,thekingofchuestablishedagreatcause,buthewasverycautiousandhadasenseofcrisis,nowyourstrengthisnotasgoodasthekingofchubutyouaresoconceited,thisisnotagoodthingforthecountry。
chenmu:sirisright,ifitwasn‘tforyoutellingme,iwouldn‘thaverealizedmymistake。
陈牧:寡人欲知,何为朴者之人臣?先生教我。
萧凡:臣以为,朴者之为人臣,北面委质,无有二心。朝廷不敢辞贱,军旅不敢辞难;顺上之为,从主之法,虚心以待令,而无是非也。故有口不以私言,有目不以私视,而上酒之。
陈牧:先生之言是也,寡人受教矣。
chenmu:iwonderwhatasimpleministerlookslike?sirtaughtme。
xiaofan:ithink,thesimpleministersareloyaltothecountry,hedoesnotprevaricateongovernmentmatters,hewillnotshirkdifficultiesinmilitarytasks,theyobeyedtheking‘sarrangementandworkedhardtoaccomplishit,whateveritwas,theyhumblywaitedforthecommand,theydon‘ttalknonsenseanddon‘tlookaround,sothekingappreciatedandrewardedthem。
chenmu:sirisright,iacceptyou。